The legality of warranty acceptance by Springfield (although looking at Apex’s video on replacing the trigger is fairly simple) will probably be that the trigger must be installed by them or a certified gunsmith. Instead of having the trigger break near the rear of the trigger guard opening, it breaks with about 3/8” open space behind the trigger. Assembled Guide Rod for Smith & Wesson M&P 9 and 40 Full Size Pistols. The SA Hellcat . New Hellcat owner. Free shipping. That to me is much more of a gimmick then a viable option in concealed carry (not to offend any of those who love theirs). Inspired by the classic 1911, the 911 traces its shootability and comfort to its full-sized counterpart..380 ACP 9 MM. Glock will probably never be able to because of its polymer mag design. The back of the frame has a generous beavertail. The Hellcat trigger issue appears fairly common, and discussion of it results in growing numbers of shooters becoming aware of the potential risk. The Hellcat seemed solid and I had no problems with it. Yes, the issue is real. Now those looking to improve the trigger pull can take advantage of Apex’s design. Springfield Armory’s Hellcat OSP is the latest in a relatively new category, the micro-double-stack pistol. The Hellcat features either an 11+1 flush fit magazine or a 13+1 extended magazine depending on what you choose to carry. Triggers and Trigger Kits; T-Shirts and Stickers; Gift cards. - Sound System/Tweeter - 3000 miles was all it took to blow the tweeter behind the drivers seat! MSRP $629 … Springfield with the Hellcat and now folks are really digging the hybrid mags with a lot of bullets. . Then it … Certainly, examples like the Kel-Tec P11 have existed for years, but until SIG Sauer released the P365, interest had been more muted. Unlock additional features, and fewer ads while browsing. Hellcat, because of the Glock type trigger safety. (03:24) Cut a 1/4″ strip of light cardstock to act as a shim. Well, the Hellcat didn’t just land on all fours—it landed square on the leading edge of pistol development. Keep in mind this is a subcompact pistol. Hellcat® Micro-Compact Handguns. As a carry gun, however, the Hellcat blew me away. No matter how hard you press the trigger. I had the same exact problem. A forum community dedicated to SIG Sauer Pistols and SIG Sauer Rifles owners and enthusiasts. The Hellcat is about six pounds and the SIG is about five pounds. Springfield Hellcat “Adaptive Grip texture” Ergonomics and Controls. The Springfield Hellcat has a trigger lever safety, but unlike the striker-fired XDs, there is no grip safety. MSRP $542 - $580. The sear and disconnector are CNC machined out of 440C stainless steel and heat treated to 53-56 RC. (l.) Flat-faced triggers are the trend in tricked-out carry guns. If your trigger finger/trigger contact point is going to change your POI is probably going to drift, which is why I torque my hands inwards and practice getting a death grip, the same grip, time after time. $158.95. You have to do some reading for a while. They build awesome fire arms and the shield has always been a great option. Extreme Trigger Kit with Pre-Fit Polymer Trigger for XD 45. Ergonomically the gun is quite simple. "It was a broken rocker arm on cylinder 6. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For 2016, there are a few software updates depending on when the car was built. I own and use for my daily carry a P365 -- and love it. Reversible Mag Release. The trigger safety is also designed to minimize the risk of the pistol firing if dropped, or firing if the trigger is exposed to any movement that is not a direct firing pull. Very unhappy, I installed the PRP kit and it cleared up all the problems I was having with the trigger and I am very happy with gun now. Maybe a 4th point – I have an F6F Hellcat mouse pad. Hi! Is this a term yet? For a gun meant to defend your life, the Hellcat immediately captured the imagination of conceal carry enthusiasts. There’s a clean take-up with an ever-so-slight bump right before it’s fully staged. Trigger Time. I prefer the familiar feel of the Mod.2’s curved trigger, but the Hellcat’s flatter bang switch is touted as a feature on the SA website . Quick View. The insert in the Apex Action Enhancement Trigger packaging is perfect for this. Apex Tactical Springfield Hellcat Trigger. I am an audiophile but never had the volume over 32 and normally its between 28-30. Order a gift certificate; Sale. . Springfield Hellcat 9mm Subcompact Pistol Accuracy Results. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Shooting the Hellcat is pleasant, and although the trigger feels a bit creepy when dry-fired, on the range I had no problem with it. It is a widely accepted opinion the Meprolight sight on the SAS gets two thumbs down. This kit helps to smooth and lighten the Hellcat’s trigger pull to about 4.25-4.5 pounds. Extreme Trigger Kit with Pre-Fit Polymer Trigger for XD 9/40. Free shipping. My you are rude. Well, it will be soon. Yes, the issue is real. trigger problem? I can promise you if/when shield arms releases their 10 round mag for the 43. Took a … If you put slight sideways pressure on the trigger it will not fire even with the blade safety fully pressed. Pull the trigger fast and you can spit lead into a cantaloupe-size cluster. Pull weight is about the same. It may not be at the top with the likes of Walther, but it’s definitely up there. Usually a faulty ignition trigger will produce few symptoms that can notify the driver of the issue. If people have this problem there are choices, you can go to Powder River Performance, they are making a new trigger shoe for the Hellcat, you can sale it or learn to use your firearm properly. Trigger: The Hellcat trigger had a lighter trigger with a shorter reset than the Sig. They eventually found themselves mixed in with other great single stack, small pistols. The sear and disconnector are CNC machined out of 440C stainless steel and heat treated to 53-56 RC. Both versions of the RMRcc for the Hellcat use a similar design to the original RMR. Oh well. Shooting the Hellcat: very similar to the P365. (Photo courtesy of Springfield Armory) We found that most G&A evaluators experienced an instinctive sight alignment with the generous U-notch rear and Ameriglo Pro-Glo front sight. The Hellcat has a flat-faced trigger which helps to facilitate proper placement of the pad of your trigger finger and a straight rearward press of the trigger – which is a must for accuracy. As a carry gun, however, the Hellcat blew me away. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. After years of precision development and engineering combined with intensive collaboration with top engineers, shooters and self-defense experts, Springfield Armory® is proud to introduce the Hellcat® — the world’s highest capacity micro compact 9mm. Oh well. I'm a pretty large guy (300# 6'4") and with the 12 round mag and inserted in an Ellite size 7 IWB holster, it fits great & no print problems. I love the (iron) sights, and grip on this gun, and am learning to shoot it better each time I go out (only have about 200 rounds so far - checking POA/POI). Discussion in 'Springfield Armory Hellcat Micro-Compact' started by Klugey1, Nov 10, 2020. XD-S® 9 Products . I was shooting it with the 13 round magazine and that gave me a nice full handed grip. XD Mod.2® 36 Products . Ruger® 6 Products . They are probably my favorite factory sight of any pistol from the factory. Reality check- nearly EVERY company (with the possible exception of HK?) The P365 proved you could take a tiny gun, and cram ten rounds into it and have it take up the same space as a single stack 9mm. You seem to have overlooked said SAS. The package includes an Apex Action Enhancement Trigger. Carry-wise the Hellcat carries just a tad larger. Quick View. There is no doubt that a pistol the size of a 43 with a 10-12 rd mag would find itself in the hands of a million loyal Glockies. Moving on to the trigger, three words…we like it. Here's the opinion of a 'meh' shooter and a guy who's owned the Hellcat for all of 2 hours. I have a new Hellcat, and yes, I’ve experienced that exact problem. With the Hellcat the trigger reach is too short for me so I was pulling shots to the left. The P365 SAS is rumored to be recently discontinued. Order a gift certificate; Sale. Sorry, when discussing the 365 I don’t even consider the SAS. 9 MM.45 ACP. Trigger Kit for the Hellcat. 40% off. The Springfield Hellcat has proven a popular choice for concealed carry pistols since its release. As you can see, the Hellcat as a straight, or flat, trigger face versus the conventional curved face. The P365 sights are low-profile, but are not as fast to pick up during combat shooting. The trigger action of each is good to excellent for concealed carry. The sights on the Hellcat are, honestly, a little ‘meh’ after using them for a few months. XD-S Mod.2® 10 Products . Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! One of the first symptoms of an issue with the ignition trigger is problems starting the engine. A lot of dry firing has 'lessened' the problem, but it’s still not 100% snag free. 40% off. Walther....if they made something like that you can bet it’d be something with really high quality for sure. Assembled Guide Rod for Smith & Wesson M&P 9 and 40 Full Size Pistols. Failure to do so will result in a crushed or misaligned trigger. Suggest you watch PRP video on install, I could not have done install myself with out the video. Very unhappy, I installed the PRP kit and it cleared up all the problems I was having with the trigger and I am very happy with gun now. The XD-E features an exposed hammer, DA/SA trigger and is the most versatile pistol in the XD line. We got the Glock 48 and 43X, which offer ten rounds in a slightly bigger platform, and SIG released the bigger P365 XL model. But I prefer the more curved trigger of … . Qualified gunsmith installation is absolutely required for your safety, the protection of your firearm and for proper tuning if it is required. Trigger. No. MSRP $542 - $580. Trigger. (WWII piston engine fighter for you non-Aviation buffs) Remember – like Ol’ Remus said, Stay away from crowds. It's the gift that always fits. - Sound System/Tweeter - 3000 miles was all it took to blow the tweeter behind the drivers seat! The concept is nice, but I’m still not completely on board with that U-dot setup. "A dealer in TX had a hellcat with similar issues problem was a defective lifter." XD-S Mod.2® 10 Products . The SA Hellcat . I can’t vouch for the Apex Hellcat trigger, but I installed one on my M&P 357c. The Hellcat® has a flat trigger face that promotes consistent trigger engagement and positive control. At this point the Hellcat is loaded. Quick View. In short, I am drawing no conclusions from any of it other than the fact the Springfield and SIG are having amazing sales volumes in … The Apex trigger is quite nice, with a smooth pull and a clean break. It's the gift that always fits. Check out our full review here. At the time of this writing, Apex Tactical is currently sold out of the several variations they make for the Springfield Armory Hellcat (likely due to their high popularity), but once more come back in stock they retail for $79.95 – $89.95 depending on the trigger you select. Trijicon now offers a miniature version of the RMR sight that will fit the Springfield Armory Hellcat pistol. One of my favorite things about the gun is the same style texture that they use for the grip, located … Now those looking to improve the trigger pull can take advantage of Apex’s design. This seems like a training issue. If you put slight sideways pressure on the trigger it will not fire even with the blade safety fully pressed. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. I had the same exact problem. 911 Handguns. Apex Tactical Springfield Hellcat Trigger. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Especially in the dark. However, the sight is both thinner and lighter. I have a new Hellcat, and yes, I’ve experienced that exact problem. Howev… Problem solved. JavaScript is disabled. Is designing a new mag that hard or are they just content with their bottom line? Not a problem, we offer gift certificates in any amount to suit your needs. For a gun meant to defend your life, the Hellcat immediately captured the imagination of conceal carry enthusiasts. Extreme Trigger Kit with Aluminum Trigger for XD 9/40. One of my favorite things about the gun is the same style texture that they use for the grip, located … I have had 2 of them with nary an issue. I’m really hoping smith and Wesson drops it’s name in the hat. The XD-E features an exposed hammer, DA/SA trigger and is the most versatile pistol in the XD line. The trigger safety in the Hellcat functions as designed and we have done extensive testing to ensure its reliability and safety. This isn’t a problem with my G43. It has one sight. Compare the dimensions and specs of Springfield 911 9mm and Springfield Hellcat Micro Compact Moving on to the trigger, three words…we like it. Car is hard to start. $104.95. The sights on the Hellcat are, honestly, a little ‘meh’ after using them for a few months. The Hellcat features either an 11+1 flush fit magazine or a 13+1 extended magazine depending on what you choose to carry. Unsure what to order for that someone special. You have a great Christmas. I really liked my G43 with night sights and if these high capacity micros had never came out, I'd still be carrying it. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. The grip is a little chubbier. Its really a feature of the size of the gun and the average size of hands. Check out the Hellcat Wiki sections for good information, the SRT Hellcat TSBs section, and read through the Active Topics for things people are talking about currently. I am an audiophile but never had the volume over 32 and normally its between 28-30. No front sight. Compared to a full-size duty gun, small pistols require far more work (and frustration) to extract top performance. SIG has nothing that prevents the trigger from moving rearward and the trigger is almost as wide as the guard. My first trip to the range my daughter said, “Dad, I can’t pull the trigger.” It is indeed caused if you pull the trigger to the left while pulling back. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. So we have engineered the trigger to be optimized for certain variances in the guns. Not a problem, we offer gift certificates in any amount to suit your needs. Seems Springfield will follow shortly or accept and honor a warranty of their product with a modified Apex trigger. The magazine release of the Hellcat® is easily reversible at the user level. The most prominent issue is that if you put sideways pressure on the trigger before attempting to pull straight … Trigger: The Hellcat trigger had a lighter trigger with a shorter reset than the Sig. trigger problem? 1. Hard to argue the allure of size and capacity. $176.95. There is a lot of information on this site. Trigger pull on both of these pistols is far from great, but the Hellcat requires somewhat less travel after taking up the slack. SIG came out with the 365 and made a pistol even smaller with much more capacity and completely raised expectations. A lot of dry firing has 'lessened' the problem, but it’s still not 100% snag free. It lacks any manual safeties and has a takedown lever and slide lock on the side. I’ll be dusting mine off and it will be back in rotation. Sig’s little 9mm has made a big splash in the market, and it changed what concealed carry looks like. The Hellcat has more of a squared off feel compared to the P365’s rounded edges, then of course the Glock feels like a Glock. 9 MM.45 ACP. "It was a broken rocker arm on cylinder 6. Replaced." If there is any issue with the ignition trigger or reluctor wheel it may compromise the signal to the computer. Here's the opinion of a 'meh' shooter and a guy who's owned the Hellcat for all of 2 hours. We never experienced this problem when shooting the Hellcat, but when purposely testing this operation, it was clear that the thumb could certainly interfere with last-round-fired lockup. The Hellcat has a flat-faced trigger which helps to facilitate proper placement of the pad of your trigger finger and a straight rearward press of the trigger – which is a must for accuracy. Replaced." The package includes an Apex Action Enhancement Trigger. Both 9mm. Everyone has the same problem with these small micro's and compacts. Springfield Armory’s flat-face trigger will win over hands with longer fingers because it gives the Hellcat a slightly longer length of pull. I know personally of an ND when the SIG was pushed into an AIWB holster that had aggressive trigger guard molding and pulled the trigger … Inspired by the classic 1911, the 911 traces its shootability and comfort to its full-sized counterpart..380 ACP 9 MM. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. It gives me a little Glock knuckle so I dremmeled some extra undercut behind the trigger … Called the RMRcc, the new red dot sight can be had with either the 3.25 MOA dot or the 6.0 MOA dot. While I’m no trigger snob, the Hellcat’s trigger is clearly one of the best bangswitches I’ve shot on a striker fired carry pistol. As you can see, the Hellcat as a straight, or flat, trigger face versus the conventional curved face. Is it a problem? Categories. Unsure what to order for that someone special. Just wanna know if anyone likes or hates them and any problems with them. The Hellcat trigger and sights are good, the SIG trigger … The Hellcat’s molded polymer frame is ergonomically well designed, incorporating subtle finger grooves, a slight beavertail and full-diameter texturing, including thoughtfully placed panels high on the frame for the meat of the support hand and textured index points above the trigger guard for the trigger finger and support hand thumb. The trigger bar (or action bar) can also vary in … Everyone says the same thing about Glock not wanting/willing to dive in. Installing the new Apex trigger onto the Hellcat trigger bar is simple, but it is critical to get all of the parts aligned correctly. Ruger® 6 Products . My first trip to the range my daughter said, “Dad, I can’t pull the trigger.” It is indeed caused if you pull the trigger to the left while pulling back. This isn’t a problem with my G43. MSRP $629 … XD Mod.2® 36 Products . We never experienced this problem when shooting the Hellcat, but when purposely testing this operation, it was clear that the thumb could certainly interfere with last-round-fired lockup. The concept is nice, but I’m still not completely on board with that U-dot setup. The Hellcat's first impressions were nearly perfect until this one incident, which may or may not be reflective of a possible issue. XD® 35 Products . The striker safety is machined from 416 stainless steel that is also properly heat treated. 911 Handguns. Yes i read what he wrote (personally) and i posted my reply. Pull the trigger fast and you can spit lead into a cantaloupe-size cluster. $158.95. Here this weekend or next I’m gonna rent them and test them out. This kit helps to smooth and lighten the Hellcat’s trigger pull to about 4.25-4.5 pounds. The Springfield Armory Hellcat is one of the hottest concealed carry pistols coming out of 2019, and with that comes new gun owners on the hunt for maintenance tips. 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